Distribution list for members of the Medical Subject Headings Funnel, part of the SACO (Subject Authority Cooperative) Funnel program of PCC (the Program for Cooperative Cataloging). For more information about the Medical Subject Headings Funnel, visit the project page on the Cataloging Lab: https://cataloginglab.org/medical-funnel. Requested by: violet.fox@northwestern.edu Date requested: Tue 3/28/23 2:52 PM Central Daylight Time
Looking forward to meeting with you this afternoon. I've started an agenda here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rcjtyZtIgS70v19PKQxI8H3aTLapOqU65i8Cw7ugSjE/edit?usp=sharing. We've got some progress to share! Looking forward to hearing your ideas for future work.
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-----Original Appointment----- From: Violet B. Fox Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 11:27 AM To: Violet B. Fox Cc: Medical Subject Headings Funnel; Katie Lockwood; Lilker, Elizabeth (NIH/NLM) [E]; Lindsey K. O'Brien; Nicolette Olson; Hoffner, Bailey Elizabeth; Robin Malamud; Veronica Pizzarotti; Weiss, Melissa C.; Balek, Kat M., M.L.S.; Herrman, Sara; Kauffman, Rhonda Subject: Medical Subject Funnel meeting When: Thursday, April 25, 2024 3:00 PM-4:00 PM (UTC-06:00) Central Time
Changing the date of this month's meeting. Thanks for your flexibility!
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Hello! I'm sorry I won't be able to make it today!
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> Hello all, > > > > My apologies for getting this meeting invitation out so late! Please join > us this afternoon if you’re available. Today Elizabeth Liker will be > sharing more information about NLM and MeSH, including reviewing a cheat > sheet document > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUhT0Q0dwj7CMJfdmXdrYrqaiDZB9CRO/edit?usp=share_link&ouid=102353046575798484645&rtpof=true&sd=true__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!S5SpgmKf6NHSADNE7LgR0gnqwgwTWUg-GpjGaK0QNnIpDpPp3AMQiB1rSXCE2Q_UtDR8-d_zRSGq0QRsylDWA2M5qwzoLt8XZNO-VI4$ > > . > > > > Thanks, > > Violet > > > > ______ > > > > Violet B. Fox is inviting you to a scheduled
Those changes were accepted, yes! But they haven't been officially announced/implemented yet.
LC publishes both tentative lists (for discussion before approval) and approved lists. Because there were so many proposals involved in this change, these headings were on a separate list than the other proposals they considered in March. Here's the tentative list for the Deaf/Hard of Hearing proposals. This list is named "2403a," since it was considered at the March (03) 2024 meeting, and the "a" denotes a separate list. We have to wait a few months for the changes to be implemented, though. When they've officially
Just wanted to share the agenda<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1whRnngMU9ECoGvQ-5QyM79-eQqkcJ_2zuyoV9f4CsKk/edit?usp=sharing> for this Thursday's Medical Subject Funnel meeting. Feel free to add anything that you'd like to talk about.
Next Monday March 25th, we'll be meeting informally with members of the Gender and Sexuality Funnel to talk about the LCSH Sex differences. Find meeting details in the agenda; please plan on joining in if this is a topic that interests you!
I'm a member of the Gender & Sexuality SACO Funnel in addition to this one, and Allison Bailund mentioned that she'd sent a message about possibly having our two funnels collaborate in trying to unpick the many LCSH that conflate sex and gender. I think that would be a great project to collaborate on!
Last year one of my colleagues submitted a change request for the MeSH, Abortion, Criminal. She had requested that the descriptor be switched from Abortion, Criminal to Abortion, Illegal. This request has been delayed.
It was suggested at a meeting earlier today that having someone from the PCC Medical Funnel submit a similar request would help make the case for this change. Would anyone be willing to do this? I would be available to work on it with someone. The work would need to be done within the next month so it could be accepted for 2025 MeSH. Feel
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I've taken the liberty of creating a document<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/15iHr_G99N-pCedY5DzSCyOnGpcz2OtUVv9-I6NKLPR8/edit?usp=sharing__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!U6eyDVLrr3YGBxsSiRpL9tCt5f24lUjMvFzecmtcgQCuSggjEKfLXL9gpHtvxGdyqjbI1Ko2tBUuocXxcfnHlhJ4IjjfewDUZLw$ > in the funnel folder for potential future projects, so that we can add items to a doc as we run into them in between meetings.
I've added the stuff we mentioned in November's meeting to the doc, as well as some stuff I've run into in the last few weeks.
2024 MeSH has been released. I thought I would point out some new terms that might be of interest to this group.
Deaf Culture
Disability Discrimination
Gender-Affirming Care
Gender-Nonconforming Persons
Health Services for Prisoners
Psychological Safety
Puberty Inhibitors
Puberty Suppression
Workforce Diversity
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The LCSH Procrastination<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh85107162.html__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!SXSoIAkQdiG66y_iMK3bdHvLRMWTzejiGIJtb7YOOHWL5K2tJK4fpFhgsdHVWpU3rq72YjGDX2MgXerWjhnmNJrOJbt_4u9wk_Y$ > has the BT "Laziness" which seems not great. I think this falls under our purview as a medical funnel because of the documented connection between procrastination and various neurodivergences.
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I'm working with librarians Deborah Thomas and Allison Bailund on a few new proposals for LCSH relating to body positivity and fat acceptance. Fat-acceptance movement<https://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh2014001069.html> is an existing LCSH; so is Discrimination against overweight persons<https://id.loc.gov/authorities/subjects/sh89004325.html>, which Deborah suggests changing to Fatphobia. We very much welcome your comments in the working document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/100ucrcw--YNyoXsvkIt5CymvpjuY-EIkUZWOGyOwCyo/edit?usp=sharing>!
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I wanted to send my work on the Intracranial Hypertension related entry terms your way. I'm realizing I'm sending my work out late, so no worries if we don't get to talk about it during the funnel meeting.
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After our meeting in September I did a draft of a proposal to update the MeSH term, Persons With Hearing Impairments. At yesterday's meeting I was asked to post it to our list.
We can discuss it at our next meeting on November 16th if there's time on the agenda. Comments can also be sent to the list.
Thanks. Best wishes, Bonnie Dede Metadata Librarian University of Michigan Library
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 7:11 AM Lilker, Elizabeth (NIH/NLM) [E] < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi, > > > > After our meeting in September I did a draft of a proposal to update the > MeSH term, Persons With Hearing Impairments. At yesterday’s meeting I was > asked to post it to our list. > > > > We can discuss it at our next meeting on November 16th if there’s time on > the agenda. Comments
Bonnie - the meetings are 1-2pm (west coast), 2-3pm (mountain time), 3-4pm (central time), 4-5pm (eastern). I sent out a calendar invite to them all so let me know if you have issues with that.
Kind regards, Kelleen
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Please resend the invite. The time looks good to attend.
Best wishes, Bonnie
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> Thanks so much for sending this out Elizabeth! > > Bonnie - the meetings are 1-2pm (west coast), 2-3pm (mountain time), 3-4pm > (central time), 4-5pm (eastern). I sent out a calendar invite to them all > so let me know if you have issues with that. > > Kind regards, > Kelleen > > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 6:27 AM Bonnie Dede <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Good morning, >> >> What time will
There was a question during last Thursday's meeting about the MeSH term, Abortion, Criminal. A colleague of mine was already working on this term and will submit a request to have the heading changed to Abortion, Illegal. As to the treeing, it's under Crime. It's there according to the laws in certain places and/or under certain circumstances. It's too bad that some of the other crimes listed are particularly offensive, like Corpse Dismemberment.
On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 8:04 AM Lilker, Elizabeth (NIH/NLM) [E] < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi, > > > > There was a question during last Thursday’s meeting about the MeSH term, > Abortion, Criminal. A colleague of mine was already working on this term > and will submit a request to have the heading changed to Abortion, > Illegal. As to the treeing, it’s under Crime. It’s there according to the > laws in certain places and/or under certain circumstances. It’s too bad > that some of the other crimes listed are particularly
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Hi, I checked several organizations and societies to see the terms they prefer. Elizabeth
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If you’re able to join us for the Deaf & HoH meeting today, here’s the Zoom meeting link: https://northwestern.zoom.us/j/4259292693
Link to the Medical Funnel Google folder (look for the Deaf & HoH project in the “Projects” folder): https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1obfIeS-xYwPFyjsduRkErehV9T5cQcsr?usp=drive_link
For the Deaf and HoH working hour meeting today -- is it the same zoom link as we used for our last meeting?
Thanks, Kat
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I thought I'd post the announcement to this group in case anyone is interested.
Hello all! During this time we'll work on our proposal for the LCSH related to Deaf and Hard of Hearing people. Please join in if you're interested in seeing how this work happens.
If you're able, please do a little research before the meetings on what terms or phrases might replace headings from the spreadsheet such as "Films for the hearing impaired." Remember we'll want to quote sources, so look for reliable sources (not just "some guy") and keep track of where you're finding information. Thanks!
Is there a link to the open letter that was sent to NLM anywhere on our funnel page? I see it here, mlanet.org/blog/open-letter-to-nlm-regarding-mesh-term-changes, but couldn't find the link on the medical funnel site.
I don’y believe we added it to the funnel page. Do you think it should be on there?
Thanks, Kelleen
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> Hi, > > > > Is there a link to the open letter that was sent to NLM anywhere on our > funnel page? I see it here, > mlanet.org/blog/open-letter-to-nlm-regarding-mesh-term-changes, but > couldn’t find the link on the medical funnel site. > > > > Thanks, > > Elizabeth > > > > > > Elizabeth Lilker > > National Library of
The next meeting of the Medical Subject Funnel will be on Thursday August 17th (no, you didn't miss June & July's meetings; they didn't happen!).
Our informal agenda: * Starting our first project: proposing revisions to the “Hearing impaired” and related LC subject headings * Discussing projects with the Gender and Sexuality Funnel, including reproductive rights headings * Collecting potential problem headings and managing future projects
Thanks to everyone who was able to join our meeting today! We had a good conversation about what how the funnel members will work on projects.
Our first step is collecting headings that should either be added to or revised in LCSH/MeSH. Please feel free to add your own ideas and share this form with your networks so we can collect ideas for projects to work on: https://cataloginglab.org/medical-funnel/suggestions/. I'll add the submissions to those forms to our shared spreadsheet of problem headings<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HGFVib5NmdnOlGAqxLECDUu2CB8Uo7BZcJBLgMgsvJw/edit?usp=sharing> before our next meeting.
My apologies for getting this meeting invitation out so late! Please join us this afternoon if you’re available. Today Elizabeth Liker will be sharing more information about NLM and MeSH, including reviewing a cheat sheet document<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uUhT0Q0dwj7CMJfdmXdrYrqaiDZB9CRO/edit?usp=share_link&ouid=102353046575798484645&rtpof=true&sd=true>.
Thanks, Violet
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After reading “Laziness Does Not Exist” and it fundamentally changing my perspective, I completely agree.
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Awesome, thanks Elizabeth. Let us know if you need anything else.
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No, I don't think it needs to be there. I just wanted to be sure I wasn't missing it. I'm working on a presentation for the 2023/2024 NLM Associate Fellows (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.nlm.nih.gov/about/training/associate/index.html__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!XWXU44xwWVnMZTnJ8FecxMkwUD98zJg0UEIAcGLRquD9Z5JSLjeCrOQTJXxMJPUZ8BicitTZm_JpXwZxsXXcQehHlxRYO9dvt1znmBG-R_6rX07Z$ ) I'll be telling them about the medical funnel and wanted to mention the open letter to NLM. I can use the link I found via the MLA.